This is partially in response to a piece recently published by Salon.com, covering an interview with Alva Noe, a philosopher from UC Berkeley.
I am a Hindu. Hindus believe in the existence of souls. I am studying biology. Biology does not consider the soul to be a possible entity. I am a neuroscience-enthusiast. Neuroscience does not believe the soul is the seat of consciousness.
While Alva Noe argues against a reductionist approach to understanding consciousness, unfortunately that is the very real reality of consciousness. The brain is the seat of consciousness. Why argue that it isn’t? It’s not as though the brain is somehow incapable of being responsible for the functions and emotions that make us wholly human.
I will agree with one aspect: that a lot of experience is very much dependent on the context into which we are placed. Yet that does not diminish the role of the brain, but rather, it reveals just how involved the brain is in crafting consciousness. It has to determine, based on the inputs it receives, how to perceive and react to the stimuli present. This is where his driver versus engine analogy falls apart. It is not a process that happens apart from the brain, it is the brain itself. When someone is brain dead, it’s not as is if consciousness continues to exist apart from the brain. Consciousness dies when the brain dies.
Why is religion something that has to be so separate from neuroscience? It’s as if one cannot coexist with the other, that somehow, neuroscience would undo the wonder that makes religion and religious experience what it is or vice versa. Neuroscience gives a more concrete basis for religious experience, and religion can help us reflect on the sheer wonder that is the brain. Why can’t the soul have a neurological basis? I’m not arguing for the total negation of the existence of the soul, I’m arguing for integrating it into our cerebral selves.
Likewise for love, desires, dreams, whatever emotions and states of mind there are that seem much too complicated to be contained in a network of neurons. These all have strong neurological bases, most have in dopaminergic pathways that give rise to feelings of pleasure and instilling the need to repeat actions that make us feel good (seek out someone we’re crushing on, eating something we like, pursuing a career which interests us). Yet we hate to think of it in these terms, we like to keep a little bit of that veil of mystery intact. It’s understandable, but it’s silly to argue that they are undoubtedly separate from the brain, whether partly or totally.
For better or worse, we are animals. We are a network of organs. We have been blessed with a highly developed forebrain, but that does not make our added ability to perceive ourselves, the world, or anything beyond…anything beyond our membrane-bound brain. What we should perhaps be more in awe of is that, despite the fact that we operate within the confines of our cranium, we can understand and strive for things that seem to exist far beyond us. That is the real wonder of the human psyche.



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April 5, 2009 at 12:58 am
SelfContradicting
Agree with what you’re saying. However, I’m not sure that Hinduism actually follows or implies this path. From what i gather (being a Hindu) it is that the soul is you as a being. Like your body, except it won’t decay when dead. Brain is still the central part, as well as the heart i suppose. Soul is just what carries through all your experiences. It is the you that is eternal.
If anything, Hinduism at times seems much more in tune with science than many other religion. Granted one would have to read more of the older scriptures and not just the epics to actually realize, but still.
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April 5, 2009 at 12:03 pm
sospokesaroj
Hello! Yes, I agree Hinduism is a very scientific faith, and your argument about the soul makes sense. I don’t have much experience with scripture aside from the Gita and some of the Bhagavatham, so that’s something I hope to check out soon.
April 6, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Mike Foster
What we should perhaps be more in awe of is that, despite the fact that we operate within the confines of our cranium, we can understand and strive for things that seem to exist far beyond us. That is the real wonder of the human psyche.
Well said, we should never settle for the basics when the sky is the limit.
peace,
mike
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April 7, 2009 at 9:18 pm
trolleywood
Hi Saroj.
I have a blog now
Hopefully I won’t flake out this time…
K, bye!
April 7, 2009 at 9:35 pm
sospokesaroj
Woman, what’s the URL? Oh and make sure you have it so that your name links to your blog when you comment on other blogs, good source of traffic.
April 7, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Lee
Not directly related, but a nice tangent and a fascinating idea.
June 1, 2009 at 11:47 am
Bharat Kalliat
Is belief in both science and Hinduism possible?, i dont believe i can reconcile those two, Hinduism is the most science compatible religion.. that doesnt mean its entirely compatible with science.
An eternal soul is not measurable, and is pretty meaningless even if it did exist, when you take the brain and genetics out