It isn’t just about the Western world against everyone else. It isn’t just about whites against blacks. It isn’t just about one place and their people pitted against other people. Race isn’t even the only factor, it’s race, sexuality, religion, and so many other things. Wherever there are differences, people strive to create some sort of hierarchy.
Every ethnic group, every religious group, every group of people you could possibly consider probably sets their group apart from the rest in some way. Whether it’s considered racist, or otherwise, prejudiced depends on who’s judging.
An example that comes to mind is that, in the context of the Hindu caste system, converts away from Hinduism lose their caste, or in some cases, dropped to the bottom of the ladder. Yet in the Abrahamic faiths, Hindus are not looked upon kindly. I could probably rattle off a whole list of examples. Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants, Hutu and Tutsi, ethnic Spanish and ethnic Indians, straight people and gay people, and so on. This is not to say all people in either camp necessarily follow that outlook, since that is certainly not the case. Some people don’t see race, religion, or sexuality. Some people do. Everyone sees it differently.
I guess I started thinking about this after seeing this link. The post starts out with an excerpt from a site evidently promoting white pride, but at the end, the author reveals that he had in fact, taken it off of a Jewish pride site and had replaced “Jew” and “Israel” with “white” and “Europe.” I remember distinctly starting out reading the post thinking “oh how awful” but when I saw that it was, in fact, from a Jewish website, it didn’t feel as bad. And then I thought, why is one any better than another?
I suppose in this case, it’s not quite as clean a substitution as one might think. “White pride” generally carries a strong negative connotation to begin with, owing to its association with such groups as the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, and other white supremacist groups. Just substituting “white” and “Europe” results in an entirely different reading, given that context.
The Jews, meanwhile, have a strong religious connection with Israel, not just a cultural one. Their connection has not yet been watered down as strongly as the white connection to Europe, in most cases. Whites (at least Western European whites) have been in this country since its inception, for the most part. Jews have been around since the latter half of the 19th century, for the most part. In considering the various sects of Judaism that exist, and how some are shrinking rapidly (some Sephardi sects come to mind) why wouldn’t some Jews call for a return to intra-religious marriage, within their sects? Maybe it’s because I’ve been raised to marry someone who is the same caste and same religion, I don’t see it as totally radical.
Yet there were people who commented on this post that felt very strongly about it. Some condemned the word subsitution, some condemned the Jewish site, some just condemned the concepts on either side. Try substituting your words of choice…does it read differently? Why?
We shouldn’t see it differently. We shouldn’t praise one and condemn another. There shouldn’t be boundaries to begin with, but since it’s too late to dismantle some of them, let us try to respect them…so long as these boundaries and notions do not cause undue pain and suffering to another. We are all, after all, human first.



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December 18, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Ezekiel
I Rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ.
And he will say, depart from me, for I never knew you!
December 18, 2008 at 5:29 pm
sospokesaroj
Hi Ezekiel,
What are you rebuking me for exactly? For proclaiming everyone equal, for calling for people to see beyond mere labels? I guess this just reinforces that everyone sees things differently.
December 18, 2008 at 4:46 pm
jezekiah
Hi Saroj-
I’m jezekiah, the author of the link you referenced above. Thanks for your very thoughtful words on the topic and for bringing a few people over to the blog.
My point in making that entry was to get people to start thinking, so I’m glad to see that some are doing so. I agree with you 100%: We are all human first.
So peace from one human to another.
best,
jezekiah
December 18, 2008 at 5:30 pm
sospokesaroj
Hehe I should be thanking you for such a thought-provoking post. I do hope people start thinking though, it’s about time we start looking beyond these things.
December 19, 2008 at 12:34 am
ed
Isn’t the real difference between minorities and the majority group.
When a shrinking minority talks about preserving itself and its culture it make some sense and may even call for drastic steps.
When the majority talks about promoting itself and its culture is sounds like oppression.
If an organization in the US wanted to promote Indian culture and ethnic pride it would be taken as a reasonable resistance to assimilation. On the other hand if a group in India chose to do the same it might sound nationalistic and even racist.
Is self-preservation racist? Is it racist for immigrant parents to speak to their children in their native language in the US? Is diversity racist? Not in my book. But genuine diversity requires authentic cultural persistence, which won’t come from whites reading about diwali in a book and then throwing an India Day Party based on their studies.
December 19, 2008 at 12:36 pm
ulla
great post, doc
December 20, 2008 at 2:31 am
Lee
Hi Saroj – Great post. As a Jew, I think I might be able to offer some insight, but I apologize in advance for its length…
My sense is that racism is largely about dehumanizing other people based on real or artificial differences. The whole “promoting Judaism” thing, on the other hand, is very different. The desire to build a stronger Jewish community – socially, professionally, academically, religiously comes from a sense of otherness that we Jews have, for better or for worse, instilled in us from a very young age.
The vast majority of Jews in America are from families who came to the US to escape horrible, horrible persecution that had persisted literally for thousands of years. In Europe and Russia, we lived in isolated communities and built our own culture separate from the often hostile majorities. I say this not to belittle the struggles of other societies, but to emphasize the fact that a large part of modern American Jewish culture has its foundations in those roots.
Many many Jewish traditions – kosher laws and religious garb in particular – (I suspect) originated as a way to separate ourselves from the non-Jewish communities. Rather than being merely a religion, Judaism is much better though of as a culture. In that light, I don’t think it should be hard to understand why intermarriage is *seriously* frowned upon. We want to preserve our culture, and the best way to do that is by having two Jewish parents. (Fun fact: Children are only considered Jewish, according to Jewish Law, if the mother is Jewish, because the assumption is that she will be the one raising the kids.)
Of course, the other side of this coin is the relative ease with which Jewish communities become incredibly insular; for me, that is one of modern Jewry’s biggest problems – not because it’s “racist,” but because it prevents us from growing as a people.
Also, to broaden the scope of the discussion a little bit – I just listened to a great podcast about Race:
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2008/11/28
PS – Regarding Israel, it became a state within the memories of our grandparents and some of our parents. This is the place where everything important to us ever happened. We are taught that it’s our homeland. I think you actually have it reversed in your post – it’s much more of a cultural issue than it is a religious one. Many ultra-Orthodox Jews object to Israel’s very existence on religious grounds, and most of the Jews in Israel are secular. While that’s not dispositive of my point, it’s certainly evidence. I don’t want to get into a discussion of Israeli politics, but I think the basic justification for the existence of the state is sound. Also, you must recall the socio-political environment in which Israel was created. Jews had been pushing for an independent state for a very long time before 1947, and just before its creation, six million Jews in Europe had just been murdered. Jews felt that they needed a homeland (self-determination was the word of the day in the early part of the 20th century), and I think the genocide sufficiently convinced the world powers that this was a valid claim.